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MacOSX-TeX Digest #11 - Wednesday, May 9, 2001

  (La)TeX source and BBEdit?
          by <[hidden email]>
  Re: [Mac OS X TeX] (La)TeX source and BBEdit?
          by "Arthur Ogus" <[hidden email]>
  Re: [Mac OS X TeX] eps and pdftex
          by "Tom Kiffe" <[hidden email]>
  Re: [Mac OS X TeX] (La)TeX source and BBEdit?
          by "Tom Kiffe" <[hidden email]>
  Re: [Mac OS X TeX] eps and pdftex
          by "Andy White" <[hidden email]>
  Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Anyone using Omnigraffle and TeXShop?
          by "Fraser Speirs" <[hidden email]>
  Re: [Mac OS X TeX] (La)TeX source and BBEdit?
          by "Rick Zaccone" <[hidden email]>
  carbon Alpha ?
          by "Michael Murray" <[hidden email]>
  Re: [Mac OS X TeX] what is/was "Instant TeX" ?
          by "William Adams" <[hidden email]>
  Re: [Mac OS X TeX] carbon Alpha ?
          by "Jon Guyer" <[hidden email]>
  Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Updtaed CMacTeX expands paths incorrectly
          by "David Wagner" <[hidden email]>
  Re: [Mac OS X TeX] emacs and CMacTeX
          by "Tom Kiffe" <[hidden email]>
  Editors for OS X, TeXshop?
          by "Greg Starr" <[hidden email]>
  an editor alternative of osx
          by "Oliver Hardt" <[hidden email]>
  installing rtf2latex2e
          by "Troy Goodson" <[hidden email]>
  Re: [Mac OS X TeX] installing rtf2latex2e
          by "Andreas Monitzer" <[hidden email]>
  Word to LaTeX?
          by "Andreas Monitzer" <[hidden email]>
  Re: [Mac OS X TeX] installing rtf2latex2e
          by "Troy Goodson" <[hidden email]>
  Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Editors for OS X, TeXshop?
          by "Michael Murray" <[hidden email]>
  Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Word to LaTeX?
          by "Jon Guyer" <[hidden email]>
  CMacTeX: perhaps a stupid question ...
          by "Oliver Hardt" <[hidden email]>


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Subject: (La)TeX source and BBEdit?
From: <[hidden email]>
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 21:31:07 -0400

I've been looking for a way to migrate my LaTeX work from a linux
machine to my MacOS X machine, and I was happy to learn about the
current version of CMacTeX and associated utilities. I've got it all
set up, but I can't understand why it's focused on BBEdit as the
editor. I've never used BBEdit before, and I just downloaded and set
up the demo, but as far as i can see, this editor provides next to no
support for editing LaTeX files. Yes, it does some syntax coloring,
and by compiling the scripts provided with CMacTeX it's possible to
call TeX, ghostscript, BibTeX, etc. But there's no help that I can
find for inserting all of the repetitive stuff that I'm used to having
AUCtex do for me in xemacs. Alpha provides vastly more LaTeX support,
I think, but then even the latest version of alpha doesn't run
natively under OS X, and I think the facility for going from a line in
the formatted version to the corresponding place in the source file
only works with BBEdit....

I have to think there's more to BBEdit thatn I can see. What do people
use to make this into a real, functional editor for LaTeX source?

--Steve Anderson

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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] (La)TeX source and BBEdit?
From: "Arthur Ogus" <[hidden email]>
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 21:22:36 -0700

Worse for me is the fact the BBedit doesn't support emacs bindings.
Alpha seemed more promising to me.  I have actually hacked up a TeX editor
based on Fred, the emacs-like editor that comes with MCL (Macintosh
Common Lisp).  It doesn't (currently) do syntax coloring, but it does
do lots of the repetitive stuff for you, as well as some more subtle
things, like unobtrusive
word completion, navigation with a labels list, drag and drop copying
and moving, and other things.  It also coordinates with TeXtures
source-dvi synchronization in both directions.  I can't live without
it.
However, this is, I'm afraid off topic for this list, because for the
time being, it doesn't run under OSX, even in Classic compatibility
mode,
and also I don't have a license to distribute it.  (Although it might
be okay to let some people test it.)
--
Arthur Ogus

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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] eps and pdftex
From: "Tom Kiffe" <[hidden email]>
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 23:48:26 -0500


>A simple question: how do you make all the TeX Type1 Postscript fonts that
>come with CMacTeX 3.7 under Mac OS 9 available to ps2pdf, and presumably
>ghostscript as well?

You have to add an entry for each one tp FontMap.GS and place (or symlink) the fonts in ghostscript's font folder. The fonts must be in pfb format.

>If I use Acrobat 4.0 under Mac OS 9, which is aware of
>all the TeX Type 1 postscript fonts, as the ps2pdf processor, called by
>epstopdf, it appears to make the bounding boxes of Illustrator EPS files a
>little smaller than they should be, when converting to PDF?

I've never used Illustrator. Are you sure the problem lies in the pdf graphics
and not in the way pdftex is including them? If someone can send me a sample
eps I can see what happens with the latest pdftex.

>Also the only
>way epstopdf appears to work is by dropping the .eps file on the
>application, the menu and dialog box method appears to go through the
>correct motions, but never actually calls whatever ps2pdf converter is
>selected.

It's a feature, not a bug. I recently changed some parts of epstopdf so
that a user could drop multiple eps files onto it and epstopdf would
convert each one in turn. I forgot to reactivate some code in the program
so that the Menus don't work. Since I always activate epstopdf by dropping
eps files onto it I never noticed that the menus didn't work. I will fix
it soon.

>Basically I just want to be able to correctly convert Illustrator
>EPS files containing references or even embedded subsets of TeX Type 1
>Postscript fonts into correctly structured PDF files having the correct
>bounding box with the necessary subsets of TeX Type1 fonts embedded with the
>correct encoding:-)
>

I may be completely wrong here, but it is my understanding that eps files
should not contain fonts. It is the job of dvips and pdftex to read the
eps or pdf file and supply the fonts itself.

--Tom Kiffe

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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] (La)TeX source and BBEdit?
From: "Tom Kiffe" <[hidden email]>
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 23:48:37 -0500

The only reason I have focused on BBEdit is that BBEdit is Carbon.
I have encountered major problems trying to send Apple Events to
classic applications when running OS X. Even simple Apple Scripts
that run perfectly in OS 9 break in OS X. Apple has a lot of work
to do in this area. At least the current OS X is much better in these
respects than OS X Public Beta.

If you run CMacTeX in OS 9 then you can use either BBEdit or Alpha
and they have exactly the same interaction with CMacTeX. When Alpha
is Carbonized you should be able to switch to it without my making
any changes to CMacTeX. That is, if the Alpha people don't make any
incompatible changes.

I refuse to enter any discussion about the relative merits and/or demerits
of these two programs.

--Tom Kiffe

>I've been looking for a way to migrate my LaTeX work from a linux
>machine to my MacOS X machine, and I was happy to learn about the
>current version of CMacTeX and associated utilities. I've got it all
>set up, but I can't understand why it's focused on BBEdit as the
>editor. I've never used BBEdit before, and I just downloaded and set
>up the demo, but as far as i can see, this editor provides next to no
>support for editing LaTeX files. Yes, it does some syntax coloring,
>and by compiling the scripts provided with CMacTeX it's possible to
>call TeX, ghostscript, BibTeX, etc. But there's no help that I can
>find for inserting all of the repetitive stuff that I'm used to having
>AUCtex do for me in xemacs. Alpha provides vastly more LaTeX support,
>I think, but then even the latest version of alpha doesn't run
>natively under OS X, and I think the facility for going from a line in
>the formatted version to the corresponding place in the source file
>only works with BBEdit....
>
>I have to think there's more to BBEdit thatn I can see. What do people
>use to make this into a real, functional editor for LaTeX source?
>
>--Steve Anderson
>
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] eps and pdftex
From: "Andy White" <[hidden email]>
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 16:29:56 +1000

>
>I may be completely wrong here, but it is my understanding that eps files
>should not contain fonts. It is the job of dvips and pdftex to read the
>eps or pdf file and supply the fonts itself.
>
>--Tom Kiffe
>


The command

%%DocumentFonts:

states what fonts the document requires and

%%DocumentSuppliedFonts:

states which if any of those are contained in the document.


--

Andy White

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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Anyone using Omnigraffle and TeXShop?
From: "Fraser Speirs" <[hidden email]>
Date: Wed,  9 May 2001 08:46:51 +0100

On 5/8/01 at 11:29 PM, Beat Koch <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I've been using OmniGraffle since b1 and I sent a bug report to Omni
> because I've had the same problem. It's been a while, but I think the
> reply said that it is an Apple bug. Anyway, my solution is to put a
> rectangle at the lower left corner of the image and then make it
> invisible by setting the border color to white. Obviously, the rectangle
> should "overlap" your image on the left and bottom side. You may need to
> try a little to figure out the size, but this works very well.

I just checked, and it seems I was running an old version of Omnigraffle (1.0b5
or something).

>From the bug-fix-list of 7th May 1.0 release: "PDF bounding box problems when
viewing exported PDF on other platforms. (OS X bug)".

A quick test seems to indicate that PDF export directly into TeXShop now works
properly.

Thanks for all the help,
Fraser
--
Fraser Speirs
Department of Computing Science - University of Glasgow
Room G161, 17 Lillybank Gardens, Glasgow G12 8QQ

t: 0141 339 8855 ext.0917
e: [hidden email]  w: www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~speirsfr

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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] (La)TeX source and BBEdit?
From: "Rick Zaccone" <[hidden email]>
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 05:43:55 -0400 (EDT)

I'm an emacs and AUC-TeX user too.  I would like to see support for
emacs in TeXShop, CMacTeX, Textures, etc.  After using AUC-TeX, BBEdit
and Alpha just don't do the job.  I do all of my editing in emacs and
then fine tune with Textures.  Synchronicity makes this fairly easy
although I'd rather not use Classic.

Rick

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Subject: carbon Alpha ?
From: "Michael Murray" <[hidden email]>
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 22:36:10 +0930

Does anyone know the schedule for this ?

Michael
--
_________________________________________________________
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Department of Pure Mathematics       Fax: 61+ 8 8303 3696
University of Adelaide             Phone: 61+ 8 8303 4174
Australia  5005      Email: [hidden email]
Home Page: http://www.maths.adelaide.edu.au/pure/mmurray
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] what is/was "Instant TeX" ?
From: "William Adams" <[hidden email]>
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 09:27:42 -0400

For those who're still interested, I've put up the manual for InstantTeX
as a .pdf at:

http://members.aol.com/willadams/gnustep/apps/tex/instant_tex_manual.pdf

William

--
William Adams, publishing specialist
ATLIS Graphics & Design / 717-731-6707 voice / 717-731-6708 fax
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] carbon Alpha ?
From: "Jon Guyer" <[hidden email]>
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 11:03:44 -0400

I'm told that Michael Murray wrote:

>Does anyone know the schedule for this ?


The short (and long) answer would be "no".

--

   Jonathan E. Guyer
   <http://www.his.com/jguyer/>

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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Updtaed CMacTeX expands paths incorrectly
From: "David Wagner" <[hidden email]>
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 10:28:34 -0500 (CDT)

I have been unable to get the new CMacTeX for OS X to work.  I follow the
directions for installation and configuration--even installing the CMacTeX
folder in my user directory instead of a more appropriate place, like
"Applications".

The problem is that when setup expands paths, it can find texmf/tex,
texmf/etex, and texmf/pdftex, but cannot find subdirectories of these.  I
tried changing permissions but that does not help.  It just seems that
setup cannot follow the link to texmf beyond one level of subdirectories.

David Wagner
--
"Being unable to cure death, wretchedness
and ignorance, men have decided, in order to be happy, not to think
about such things."
--Blaise Pascal


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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] emacs and CMacTeX
From: "Tom Kiffe" <[hidden email]>
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 10:40:35 -0500

I have never used emacs but one should be able to call CMacTeX programs from
within it to perform various tasks. For example, if you want to typeset gentle.tex you can do so from a Terminal window by typing

open -a /Users/tkiffe/CMacTeX_OSX/binaries/CMacTeX gentle.tex

It must be possible to configure emacs to have it execute this command. I always
use the absolute path to my CMacTeX programs because I have numerous copies
of them on my system and I want to launch a specific one. You can use aliases
to simply these commands. For example, if you create this alias

alias cmt open -a /Users/tkiffe/CMacTeX_OSX/binaries/CMacTeX

then you can execute the original command with just

cmt gentle.tex

This open command just sends an OpenDoc Apple Event to the designated application. CMacTeX performs the following actions when it receives an
OpenDoc event.

1) If the file has a .tex extension CMacTeX will typeset the file.
2) If the file has a .dvi extension CMacTeX will call dvips.
3) If the file has an .aux extension CMacTeX will call bibtex.
4) If the file has a .idx extension CMacTeX will call makeindex.

You can't pass any parameters to CMacTeX with the open command, so it
processes the OpenDoc with its current settings.

--Tom Kiffe

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Subject: Editors for OS X, TeXshop?
From: "Greg Starr" <[hidden email]>
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 09:47:36 -0600

I have used Alpha w/Textures, but what do people use under OS X, with
TeXShop, for example?  BBEdit is the obvious choice, of course, but
it appears that the BBEdit TeX plugin is not OS X compatible.  My son
says to use emacs, but...

        --greg
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* Department of Mechanical Engineering        ph (505) 277-6298 *
* University of New Mexico, Albuquerque NM 87131   FAX 277-1571 *
* email- [hidden email]  WWW- http://www.me.unm.edu/~starr/      *
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Subject: an editor alternative of osx
From: "Oliver Hardt" <[hidden email]>
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 11:39:58 -0700

I tries out pepper, and found it to be a very powerful and userfriendly
editor.   although integration with other programs (e.g., TeX) seems to be
possible, I have not achieved it.  Nevertheless, the editor is worth
checking out.  Olli.

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Subject: installing rtf2latex2e
From: "Troy Goodson" <[hidden email]>
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 14:11:11 -0700

Short question: has anyone installed the Unix distribution of rtf2latex2e?
./configure couldn't guess my host, how do I specify it?


Long question:

I'm new to the unix-type installation procedures.  I saw mention of
rtf2latex2e and thought it sounded interesting, so I made my way over
to <http://members.home.net/setlur/rtf2latex2e/> and downloaded the
Unix source.

The instructions say, of course:
./configure
make
make install

but when I ran ./configure, I got this:

localhost% ./configure
creating cache ./config.cache
checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
checking for working aclocal... missing
checking for working autoconf... found
checking for working automake... missing
checking for working autoheader... found
checking for working makeinfo... found
checking host system type... configure: error: can not guess host
type; you must specify one

Now what?

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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] installing rtf2latex2e
From: "Andreas Monitzer" <[hidden email]>
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 23:17:27 +0200

On Wednesday, May 9, 2001, at 11:11 , Troy Goodson wrote:

> Short question: has anyone installed the Unix distribution of rtf2latex2e?
> ./configure couldn't guess my host, how do I specify it?

cp /usr/libexec/config* .
./configure

But I don't know if it compiles properly.

andy
--
Discussion forthcoming.

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Subject: Word to LaTeX?
From: "Andreas Monitzer" <[hidden email]>
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 23:48:29 +0200

I've got a complicated layout in Microsoft Word I want to include in a
LaTeX document. It's a table with embedded graphics.

I'd like to include it in PDF-form, but how do I convert it? When I use
Acrobat Distiller, I only get full page output, but that's not usable for
LaTeX. When I shrink the page size in Word, it still prints a A4 page.

Any ideas?

andy
--
Description forthcoming.

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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] installing rtf2latex2e
From: "Troy Goodson" <[hidden email]>
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 15:00:28 -0700

>On Wednesday, May 9, 2001, at 11:11 , Troy Goodson wrote:
>
>>Short question: has anyone installed the Unix distribution of rtf2latex2e?
>>./configure couldn't guess my host, how do I specify it?
>
>cp /usr/libexec/config* .
>./configure
>
>But I don't know if it compiles properly.
>

Well, it gives me a lot of warnings (variable is implicitly extern &
assignment from incompatible pointer type ) and finally ends with this
error:

cc -g -O2 -DINSTALL_DIR=\"/usr/local/rtf2latex2e\" -I../src/include   -c -o oledecod.o ../src/common/cole/oledecod.c
../src/common/cole/oledecod.c:45: header file 'malloc.h' not found
cpp-precomp: warning: errors during smart preprocessing, retrying in basic mode
make: *** [oledecod.o] Error 1

I guess this is getting to the point where I should go to darwinos-users...

Troy.

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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Editors for OS X, TeXshop?
From: "Michael Murray" <[hidden email]>
Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 07:59:47 +0930

>I have used Alpha w/Textures, but what do people use under OS X,
>with TeXShop, for example?  BBEdit is the obvious choice, of course,
>but it appears that the BBEdit TeX plugin is not OS X compatible.
>My son says to use emacs, but...
>
> --greg
>--
>*****************************************************************
>* Greg Starr, Professor                    ASME Faculty Advisor *
>* Department of Mechanical Engineering        ph (505) 277-6298 *
>* University of New Mexico, Albuquerque NM 87131   FAX 277-1571 *
>* email- [hidden email]  WWW- http://www.me.unm.edu/~starr/      *
>*****************************************************************
>


TeXShop has a built in editor.  I am thinking of upgrading
my old BBEdit 3.0 license!


Michael
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_________________________________________________________
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Department of Pure Mathematics       Fax: 61+ 8 8303
3696                                      
University of Adelaide             Phone: 61+ 8 8303 4174      
Australia  5005      Email: [hidden email]            
Home Page: http://www.maths.adelaide.edu.au/pure/mmurray
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http://www.maths.adelaide.edu.au/pure/mmurray/pgp.txt
_________________________________________________________


   



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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Word to LaTeX?
From: "Jon Guyer" <[hidden email]>
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 19:05:09 -0400

At 11:48 PM +0200 5/9/01, Andreas Monitzer wrote:

>I'd like to include it in PDF-form, but how do I convert it? When I
>use Acrobat Distiller, I only get full page output, but that's not
>usable for LaTeX. When I shrink the page size in Word, it still
>prints a A4 page.

I'd use Word's option to print selection (under the "Microsoft Word"
tab of the Print dialog). Direct that to an EPS file with the
LaserWriter driver. Use \includegraphics to pull that in to your
LaTeX document.

--

   Jonathan E. Guyer
   <http://www.his.com/jguyer/>

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Subject: CMacTeX: perhaps a stupid question ...
From: "Oliver Hardt" <[hidden email]>
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 16:04:33 -0700

ok, this might sound a little strange and stupid, but i am just having
these problems ... i recently installed cmactex and tried it out today.  
If i open a .tex file that is not located in the cmactex root folder, it
won't be typeset, since the tex program prompts with: cannot find file
"foo.tex".  this cannot be the standard procedure ... so, here is the
question, how can i get tex to typeset a program stored anywhere on the
harddisk??  Thanks.  Olli.

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